Pics or it didn't happen scientology. Please show us some proof that these "criminal acts" have been committed. and if anonymous is doing all these illegal acts, then why has no one been arrested? Certainly if anyone has done anything illegal then the police would certainly be investigating these crimes right now. inb4 bgodley

Posted 4.16.2008 12:48 AM

On Scientology responds,

I find it ludicrous that some with the education level Rev. Susan Taylor cannot comprehend the difference between a noun and an adjective. I'll elaborate for the past three months people who did not wish to be identified protested the church of scientology (you can google fair game or go to www.xenutv.com and see some videos in action). They did this anonymously. I wont discredit that some people might be pranking the church of scientology also anonymously but these two things until proven are baseless facts and an example of faulty logic.

I encourage Rev. Susan Taylor to go to Enturbulation.com where these protests are being planned out and point to any illegalities (there are none). All of this planning and discussion is being done in the open and the reasons for all these individuals, world wide, coming together to protest: intimidation, coercive sales practices, unsafe practice of medicine, force labor camps, explotation of minors, lack of health care, no retirement plans, obvious skirting of US labor law as well as many other illegal and unsavory acts.

These people didn't dream this up they did they research, the spoke to ex-members victimized to long time critics and individually decided enough is enough. This cult can be shut down if we all do something about it.

That is exactly what they are doing regardless of how much silly propaganda the Church of Scientology puts out. They will be out there exposing their crimes every month until legal authorities, like in belgium and germany hear our collective voices and put this for profit cult out of business.

Rev. Susan Taylor would do well to research out the facts before writing completely libelous and incorrect information.

Good day.

Posted 4.16.2008 12:55 AM

RE Scientology responds:

An analysis of the logical fallacies in L. Ron Hubbard's 'Introduction to Scientology Ethics' pretty much spells out how truth is often circumvented by members of the 'Church'. Their basic communication courses and policies dictate how to play word traps, plant seeds of doubt, tell acceptible truths, and basically manipulate a situation. This is the very core of what they call 'handling' which is a term they use for controlling others. As you can see, they are not only known decievers, but well trained ones as well.

On a similar note, I find it laughible that they are calling shenanigans on the group who is organizing worldwide peaceful protests against the human rights violations carried out by the 'church', and attempting to reconnect families that have been torn apart by their command.

They are, again, using the name of the group itself to bend the truth to their advantage:

News Item: "An anonymous individual tipped off authorities leading to the arrest of dangerous criminals who had been operating beneath the radar"

Scientology Representitive: "Must be one of our guys, we are the only ones who can really help"

News Item: "An anonymous motorist hit and run Bucky the Goat, mascot of the local high school athletic team. Bucky is not expected to make it to Fridays big game."

Scientology Representitive: "That must be the ones who are protesting against us! Only criminals are against Scientology, L Ron Hubbard the source wrote that in our policies! Arrest them! Off with their head!"

Posted 4.16.2008 1:18 AM

The Church of Scientology alleges without any proof that the group Anonymous has committed criminal acts against the church. While the Scientology organization has been known from past court records to fabricate allegations against anyone critical of it's policies that are questionable. Past critics have been framed for bomb threats (sound familiar). Paulette Cooper wrote a book critical of Scientology and under a program called "Operation Feakout" the FBI found that Scientologists illegally obtained computer paper with her finger prints and created a bomb threat against themselves. This was uncovered when the FBI raided Scientology offices to seize evidence of Scientology's infiltration at the IRS. (L. Ron Hubbards wife and others went to jail) At that time they also discovered all the documents and notes describing the operation against Ms. Cooper. So therefore any accusations trying to label Anonymous as Cyber terrorist, bigots or anything other than legally concerned citizens trying to peacefully protest an organization they consider deceptive and criminal should be looked at critically.

But Anonymous doesn't want anyone just to believe what they hear from either Anonymous or Scientology. Anonymous encourages everyone to research the actions of Scientology for themselves. A good place to start is http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/ or www.whyweprotest.net/ also look at what Scientology says see both sides. Make up your own mind Anonymous has nothing to fear from the truth!

Anonymous HAS repeatedly explained that it is a peaceful group protesting the abuses of Scientology. This has been acknowledged by the full cooperation that the Anonymous group has shown towards Law Enforcement and civil authorities. The statement by Scientology is just another example of SPIN by their media department to try to divert public opinion from the legitimate protests of the criminal actions by the Corporation. Also Anonymous has NO leaders it is a group of individuals gathered by a common cause to help those that have been wronged by Scientology both inside and outside the Corporation. It supports the rights of anyone to believe whatever they choose. It does not believe that the public should be cheated, lied to and criminally abused by Scientology. Anonymous wants to bring these abuses to the proper law enforcement agencies and the publics scrutiny so that the guilty parties can be prosecuted and the Scientology Corporation can be reformed.

Posted 4.16.2008 1:24 AM

Hi Susan,

It's me, Anonymous. I just wanted to let you know that I called the waaaaaambulance on your behalf. Maybe they'll have a beer for you to cry in. If that doesn't work, why don't you file some more restraining orders. Oh wait, that didn't work either.

Fair Game is Fail Game.

Bwaaaahahahahaha

Morbo shall destroy puny earthlings!

Posted 4.16.2008 1:28 AM

Justice Anderson, Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia:

"Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill... (Scientology is) the world's largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy."

Kenneth Robinson, British Minister of Health:

"The government is satisfied that Scientology is socially harmful. It alienates members of families from each other and attributes squalid and disgraceful motives to all who oppose it; its authoritarian principles and practice are a potential menace to the personality and well being of those so deluded as to become followers; above all, its methods can be a serious danger to the health of those who submit to them... There is no power under existing law to prohibit the practice of Scientology; but the government has concluded that it is so objectionable that it would be right to take all steps within its power to curb its growth."

Federal prosecutor's memorandum to the judge urging stiff jail sentences for 9 top leaders of Scientology who had pleaded guilty to criminal charges:

"The crime committed by these defendants is of a breath and scope previously unheard of. No building, office, desk, or file was safe from their snooping and prying. No individual or organization was free from their despicable conspiratorial minds. The tools of their trade were miniature transmitters, lock picks, secret codes, forged credentials and any other device they found necessary to carry out their conspiratorial schemes."

Justice Latey, ruling in the High Court of London:

"Scientology is both immoral and socially obnoxious...It is corrupt sinister and dangerous. It is corrupt because it is based on lies and deceit and has its real objective money and power for Mr. Hubbard... It is sinister because it indulges in infamous practices both to its adherents who do not toe the line unquestionably and to those who criticize it or oppose it. It is dangerous because it is out to capture people and to indoctrinate and brainwash them so they become the unquestioning captives and tools of the cult, withdrawn from ordinary thought, living, and relationships with others."

Judge Breckenridge, Los Angeles Superior Court:

"[The court record is] replete with evidence [that Scientology] is nothing in reality but a vast enterprise to extract the maximum amount of money from its adepts by pseudo scientific theories... and to exercise a kind of blackmail against persons who do not wish to continue with their sect.... The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder, L.Ron Hubbard."

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Paul Breckenridge, June 1984, in the Gerry Armstrong case:

"In addition to violating and abusing its own members' civil rights, the organization over the years with its 'fair game' doctrine has harassed and abused those persons not in the church whom it perceives as enemies."

California appellate court, 2nd. district, 3rd. division, July 29, 1991, B025920 & B038975, Super. Ct. No. C 420153:

"In January 1980, fearing a raid by law enforcement agencies, Hubbard's representatives ordered the shredding of all documents showing that Hubbard controlled Scientology organizations, finances, personnel, or the property at Gilman Hot Springs. In a two week period, approximately one million pages were shredded pursuant to this order."

California Supreme Court, United States v. Lee [455 U.S. 252,257,258 (1982)*/:

"When a person is subjected to coercive persuasion [as in Scientology] without his knowledge or consent ...[he may] develop serious and sometimes irreversible physical and psychiatric disorders, up to and including schizophrenia, self-mutilation, and suicide."

USDJ Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion, RTC vs Lerma:

"The dispute in this case surrounds Lerma's acquisition and publication on the Internet of texts that the Church of Scientology considers sacred and protects heavily from unauthorized disclosure. Founded by L. Ron Hubbard, the Scientology religion attempts to explain the origin of negative spiritual forces in the world and advances techniques for improving one's own spiritual well-being. Scientologists believe that most human problems can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters" to individuals in the contemporary world, causing spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives of their hosts ".

Lord Denning:

"...capable of such danger that the public interest demands that people should know what is going on"

Judge Constandia Angelaki:

"It is an organization with medical, social and ethical practices that are dangerous and harmful,"

"It claims to act freely so as to draw members who subsequently undergo ... brainwashing by dictated ways of thinking that limit reaction capabilities."

Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia, Justice Brookings, 1982:

" ...the teaching of Scientology and the practice of Scientology will result in the commission of many offenses and may well result in the commission of many others."

California 9th Circuit Appeals court in the Zolan case, after secret Scientology tapes were remanded from the U.S. Supreme Court:

"The purpose of the MCCS project was to cover up past criminal wrongdoing.... The MCCS project involved the discussion and planning for future frauds against the IRS in violation of 18C USC 371."

Ted Gunderson, former head of the FBI's Los Angeles office, quoted in TIME May 6, 1991:

"In my opinion the church has one of the most effective intelligence operations in the U.S. rivaling even that of the FBI."

IRS Final Adverse Ruling re "Church of Spiritual Technology," July 8, 1988:

"The California case also demonstrates inurement... amid continuous representations denying control by and benefit to Mr. Hubbard, and a tenacious denial of the actual state of the organization's actual affairs in the face of overwhelming evidence establishing the true nature of the organization's operations." ...Such self dealing does not lose its identity as private benefit and inurement merely because it is conducted through intermediary individuals and\or organizations.

California appellate court, 2nd district, 7th division, Wollersheim v. Church of Scientology of California, Civ. No. B023193 Cal. Super. (1986):

"Substantial evidence supports the conclusion Scientology leaders made the deliberate decision to ruin Wollersheim economically and possible psychologically.... We do not mean to suggest Scientology's retributive program as described in the evidence of this case represented a full scale modern day "inquisition." Nevertheless there are some parallels in purpose and effect. "Fair game" like the "inquisition" targeted "heretics." "Other testimony established Scientology is a hierarchal organization which exhibits near paranoid attitudes toward certain institutions and individuals---in particular the government, mental health professions, disaffected members, and others who criticize the organization or its leadership... During trial, Wollersheim's experts testified Scientology's "auditing" and "disconnect" practices constituted "brainwashing" and "thought reform" akin to what the Chinese and North Koreans practiced on American prisoners of war." "A religious practice which takes place in the context of this level of coercion has less religious value than one the recipient engages in voluntarily. Even more significantly, it poses a greater threat to society to have coerced religious practices inflicted on its citizens." "Using its position as religious leader, the church and its agents coerced Wollersheim into continuing auditing even though his sanity was repeatedly threatened by this practice... Thus there is adequate proof the religious practice in this instance caused real harm to the individual and the appellant's outrageous conduct caused that harm... Church practices conducted in a coercive environment are not qualified to be voluntary religious practices entitled to first amendment religious freedom guarantees." "We hold that the state has a compelling interest in allowing its citizens to recover for serious emotional injuries they suffer through religious practices they are coerced into accepting. Such conduct is too outrageous to be protected under the constitution and too unworthy to be privileged under the law of torts."

U.S. v Kuch 288 F Sup. 439 (1968):

"Those who seek constitutional protections for their participation in an establishment of religion and freedom to practice its beliefs must not be permitted the special freedoms this special sanctuary may provide merely by adopting religious nomenclature and cynically using it as a shield to protect them when participating in anti social conduct that otherwise stands condemned."

United States v. Article or Device, Etc., 333 F.Supp. 357 (D.D.C. 1971) [regarding Scientology's "E-Meter"]:

"The bulk of the material is replete with false medical and scientific claims devoid of any religious overlay or reference." (333 F.Supp. at 361) "The Court's opinion directly and forcefully confronts the issue of claimed First Amendment protection by Scientology. The Court then held that the practice of Scientology was secular." (333 F.Supp. at 359

Commissioners of the City of Clearwater, Florida, public hearings, May 5-10, 1982. The Commission received documentary and testimonial evidence with respect to the operation, activities and conduct of Scientology. Based upon the sworn testimony of witnesses, affidavits, state and federal court decisions, and miscellaneous documents reviewed and considered, the Commission made the following factual recitation:

"Evidentiary fact:

The Church of Scientology is currently engaged in a nationwide conspiracy to impede and obstruct municipal, state and federal taxing authorities, by adopting a religious and charitable guise to avoid payment of taxes.

"Scientology's internal policies state: "They (the public) want ministers. We will show them what ministers look like" (Vol. 1 p.41). "Churches are looked upon as reform groups. Therefore, we must act like a reform group" (Vol.1 p.196).

"Scientology has nothing to do with religion. The Church did not adopt the religious guise until it was necessary to seek First Amendment protection (Vol.4 p.405).

"Scientology uses a religious image checklist designed to falsely portray a religious image to mislead officials (Vol. 2 p.238,239). "Church policy instructs members to lie to inquiring officials (Vol.1 p.226,227).

Documentary evidence in Church of Spiritual Technology vs U.S., November 22, 1989

"The goal of the department [of governmental affairs] is to bring the government and hostile philosophies or societies into a state of complete compliance with the goals of Scientology. This is done by a high level ability to control and in its absence by a low level ability to overwhelm. Introvert such agencies. Control suchagencies." -- LRH

"The purpose of the legal officer is to help LRH handle every legal, government, suit, accounting and tax contact or action... and to bring the greatest possible confusion and loss to its enemies." -- LRH

"Guardian Order 060971" seized in FBI authorized search of Scientology headquarters:

"The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are:

(T1) Depopularizing the enemy to the point of obliteration.

(T2) Taking over the control or allegiance of the heads or proprietors of all news media.

(T3) Taking over the control or allegiance of key political figures.

(T4) Taking over the control or allegiance of those who monitor international finance..."

Documentary evidence in the Armstrong case:

"You can be merciless whenever your will is crossed and you have the right to be merciless." -- LRH

California Supreme Court, in United States v. Lee 455 U.S. 252,257,258 (1982):

"When a person is subjected to coercive persuasion [as in Scientology] without his knowledge or consent ...[he may] develop serious and sometimes irreversible physical and psychiatric disorders, up to and including schizophrenia, self-mutilation, and suicide."

Posted 4.16.2008 1:42 AM

Reverend Susan Taylor ought to start looking for a real job, as Scientology Inc. Cult/Corporation ain't gonna be around much longer... I hear they're hiring over at Denny's on I-95. Better get down there, Susan.

Posted 4.16.2008 3:00 AM

Oh Sue, I can't believe you're still spouting the cult's line after we've gone to such great lengths to speak to you. Aren't you the one who invited us over to talk about this? And then you make up lies about us and fair game us like your cult did to Paulette Cooper.

I think it's been made abundantly clear by now that Anonymous has no leaders. Those failed injunctions in Clearwater prove that. You can't file against a group with no structure and no leader. I'm also very concerned that you claim illegal actions were committed by Anonymous, yet have failed to turn that information over to the police so arrests can be made. Perhaps the truth is that Anonymous hasn't broken the law and there is no proof? Ah, more fair gaming then. I suppose that's what you can expect from a group whose motto on dealing with criticism is to "Always attack, never defend."

Sue, you make me very sad. I wish there was a way we could help you, as well as all those trapped in the cult. I sincerely believe you think you're helping people, but you can't help people by cutting them off from their family, draining their financial resources, and suppressing the freedom of information and belief.

We believe in truth, in free knowledge, in ending human rights abuses and in having fun while we protest. Feel free to speak to Anonymous at the next protest, Sue. We'd be happy to answer your questions and explain a bit more about who we are.

Posted 4.16.2008 3:22 AM

Re: Scientology Responds

The April 2 feature article is perhaps the most accurate and comprehensive article that has been written about Anonymous in any medium. There is no way that Susan Taylor would write a letter regarding that article without READING it first, correct? It is painfully obvious to anyone who reads that article that Anonymous is a collection of individuals who are not responsible for others' behavior. There are no leaders, and you can't make anyone listen to you based on who you are. See the following quotes from that article:

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"Anons interviewed for this story say that for the most part they don't even know each other's names. There are no leaders and no spokespeople."

"Anyone who wants to can be Anonymous and work toward a set of goals. . . . We have this agenda that we all agree on and we all coordinate and act, but all act independently toward it, without any want for recognition."

"Anonymous is a group, in the sense that a flock of birds is a group. How do you know they're a group? Because they're travelling in the same direction. At any given moment, more birds could join, leave, peel off in another direction entirely."

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How could someone read that article — and those quotes — and not understand that one person acting illegally on behalf of Anonymous need not have any interaction or relation whatsoever to any other member of the "group"? It's meaningless to assign blame to someone who goes to peaceful protests just because someone else who is also anonymous chose to do something illegal or terroristic. Susan Taylor did not fail to read the previous article, nor did she misunderstand it.

She knows what kind of group Anonymous is and knows that nearly all of the people using the label "Anonymous" are innocent of any wrongdoing. Her "Scientology Responds" letter is a deliberately crafted LIE.

Her audience is not Anonymous, because any Anon recognizes her letter as complete rubbish. Instead, she is trying to reach people who are unsure of their attitude towards the protests. By implying that anyone who is associated with Anonymous is an accessory to illegal acts (FALSE!), she hopes that the public will look upon the protesters less favorably.

Scientology's first response to Anonymous was to call it a terrorist organization on par with the KKK or Nazis. They manufactured threats from Anonymous to support these claims — see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2lQhiNQ008 for proof of this. Now that this strategy has failed them, they are simply looking for another way to discredit all of us and get the general public to disregard us and think ill of us... for no reason other than because we are critical of their crooked operation.

Posted 4.16.2008 3:29 AM

I find it atrocious that this "church" refuses to defend its own actions. Instead, they are offering up buzzwords like "crimes" and "hateful" and "bigotry" to describe a group of protesters who have thusfar been nothing short of PEACEFUL and cooperative with law enforcement, the media, and the general public.

In order for claims of terrorist acts or criminal activities to hold weight, shouldn't a THIRD PARTY be willing to step forward and collaborate what this "church" is claiming? I've not seen any law enforcement or official government agencies agreeing with ANY statements by this "church". Scientology will only reveal information that they themselves host on their extremely propaganda-riddled websites.

I say to you now, Scientology, these continued abuses against human rights and active attempts to suppress free speech are being noticed by more and more members of the world population, and they will not let you continue unchecked for much longer. I strongly encourage the members of this "church" to take serious time and reflect on the decisions of those who manage your time, your money, and your personal and spiratual growth.

I offer these resources to assist those who do not know the whole story, but would like to find out:

http://goanonymous.org/

http://xenu.net

http://xenutv.com/

http://forums.enturbulation.org/

Educate yourselves, take some responsibility for your own opinions and actions. Learn, grow, and take action.

Posted 4.16.2008 8:58 AM

GOOD GRIEF Susan, wake up and smell the coffee...it's comin' down girl...this "vengeful, authoritarian, ruthless, fascisitic" (quote Andrew Morton) pyramid scheme you're a part of. Shame on all of you for the pain and havoc you've wreaked. BUT you can choose otherwise- all you have to do is LEAVE.

Please do come join us on the outside...we have cake!

By the way Mark A. Bian- thanks for the above compilation.

Posted 4.16.2008 11:03 AM

Bomb threats, wheat germ, phone calls...where are the police reports, Susan?

We checked, there are none! Surely at least one of the Scientology establishments would have called police after receiving threatening phone calls, right? I mean, you all run screaming to the cops when a peaceful demo is outside your doors, surely a bomb scare would deserve the same!

Funny thing about those threats...there is evidence that some of them were generated by Scientology itself! You have to manufacture threats because your critics won't resort to such tactics.

Stop hitting yourself!

Stop hitting yourself!

Stop hitting yourself!

I really liked it when you sent San Diego PD's domestic terrorism unit to my door with a 'whaaaa' that I planned to blow up the local org! You have NO idea how badly that backfired!

Posted 4.16.2008 11:50 AM

It is a FACT that the "church" of Scientology cannot point to a single act of violence at any of the protests held in hundreds of cities around the world over the last 3 months.

Not one.

See what actor and former Scientologist Jason Beghe has to say about Scientology:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/15/jason-beghe-tv-and-movie_n_96723.html

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0815,celebrity%20denounces%20scientology,411801,2.html/full

(in case links are not accepted, go to huffingtonpost.com and the villagevoice.com and look for recent articles/posts on Jason Beghe)

Posted 4.16.2008 12:21 PM

What's great about Scilons is their robotic communication, whether in print or aloud. Every sentence in Susan Taylor's letter sounds like it was approved by a committee. Sounds kind of like ... brain washing? If you watch enough of the YouTube videos where real Scilons confront the public, you start seeing that they all use identical rhetoric no matter what city or country they're in. I've heard it so many times that I could do it! "What are your crimes? Why are you here? Why don't you confess your crimes now?" blah blah blah. It's all from L Ron's dime-store hypnosis sideshow. I'll have to hand it Ron -- he was a frikkin genius. What a life: Living on a cruise ship with 14 year old girls in hot pants at his beck and call (and I do mean beck), loaded with money and dope, and an army of subservient zombies out there spreading his message ("MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY. MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MORE MONEY." - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 9 March 1972, MS OEC 384"). It's all so Walter Mitty. But the worst of all is that the Scilons are totally humorless. Does advancing to 'clear' abort your sense of humor? They're such a grim bunch of dullards. I guess there are no laws against being dull, but maybe there should be. One last thing: thanks, Scientology, for giving me the most free entertainment that I've ever had! I've been following your Snake Oil & Medicine Show for over 30 years now, and there's never a dull moment, from Hubbard's wife going to prison for espionage against the US government, to video star Tom Cruise causing the biggest P.R. crisis in modern history. Please keep it going -- I'm hooked.

Posted 4.16.2008 10:56 PM

I know TC, they don't even need Anonymous to make them look bad. Every time these $cietologi$t$ open their mouths, they indict themselves. The public see how loony and far gone they are.

And they are slow, so slow! They finally shut Tom Cruise up, but it's now too late. It took them until the South Park episode was re-run to try to stop it.

Anonymous: the CO$ just isn't that smart.

Posted 4.17.2008 2:45 PM

Look, the graphic of the globe in the "Bomb Threat video" is the same graphic in the header of a front group for the "Church" of Scientology. The proof is here.

http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=proofuo8.jpg

Scientology made up the bomb threat. They waste Law Enforcement's time and budget. The police know this and that's why they are overly friendly to our protests and suspicious of Scientologists.

Posted 4.17.2008 4:47 PM

Goddamnit 4-Chan, stay out of my free-weekly!

Posted 4.22.2008 11:55 AM